I have no idea why this entry is at the top of my personal list this month – I didn’t even read it properly first time out. Whatever appealed (and it certainly wasn’t genre) it must have had some weight behind it. Perhaps my subconscious asking the same question over and over – “What does he do with the heads?” Fortunately Rob is around to explain everything but the heads. I’ll take notes and listen … probably.
Bloody Pulp and Period Versus Genre
by guest-blogger Rob Berry
Mike and I were talking about H. G. Wells this morning and it seemed a particularly good way to start a conversation about my favorite Zuda submission this month; BLOODY PULP by Jorge Vega (writer) and Jeff McComsey (artist).
H. G. Wells, as Mike pointed out, wrote social commentary and not a “word of science fiction”. True. But science fiction as such hadn’t really been establish yet as a convention or, much more damaging to its potential, a genre.
Comicbook fiction thrives on the tropes and audience expectations created by genre writing. The larger history of American comics at least is based on the idea of presenting readers with uniquely written stories from a handful of categories of fiction that they’re already familiar with: superheroes, horror, adventures in fantastical locales, space opera, funny animals, out-spoken children, etc. As the industry moves it’s focus off the spinner racks of retail comicshops and into the potential for a new audience on the web, the same questions still arise as to what new genre is likely to be most successful in the new market. Unfortunately, there’s a predilection for narrow-minded thinking in adapting the old stuff for new markets that brought us such greatly innovative approaches to re-packaging as Lois Lane: Superman’s Girlfriend. Still, it does mean that people are looking beyond the capes and cowls to find some other vein of industry gold in comics, some new category of what comics can be about.
Any decently well-read comics fan can tell you how frustrating it is for them to explain that comics are a language and not a genre. No news there. But lately comic creators have been falling into the same trap by presenting historical settings as a genre or sub-genre for audiences to better understand what they’re selling. Period fiction has become a part of the pitching machine in the absence of a clear genre-style to dominate the scene.
Then along comes something rare in handling, a pitch that presents readers with a quick overview of when and where to establish context, but pulls off a flip on the preconceptions we might hold that limit period to genre. In television that was Deadwood. This month at Zuda it’s the eight clean and straight-forward pages of Bloody Pulp.
This comic seems, within the first couple of pages, to be another terse gangland period piece in the style of Collins and Rayner’s Road To Perdition, but it takes that energy and flips it around to present us with a Utopian character drama about building a better world and life outside of the city. The kind of social criticism that H. G. would’ve gone for using the trappings of science fiction to bring thrills and adventure to the story. Its notable here that this was, in fact, a big sub-genre of 1930’s fiction by the way, these rural Utopian societies of artists re-imagining America. Its lies at the core of all the noir-style detective stories that there’s a cleaner, better world someplace to be had and life in the Big City has hardened our ability to be a part of it. The blend here works perfectly and, as rarely happens with Zuda entries, I’m certain after reading those eight pages that Vega and McComsey have a lot more to show us. That is, after all, what a pitch is all about; showing me a little bit of something I know to make me want to see more of how it could be different.
That’s what comics, as an industry, needs to do more of – stepping out of the expectations and narrow-mindedness of genre style and becoming what it’s meant to be, a language of stories.
-Rob Berry






July 13, 2009 at 2:07 pm |
Wow. I voted for Bloody Pulp on an instinctive level…I could sense the interesting juxtapositions and conflicts, but Rob has a way of just nailing out all of the details for why this is such an interesting and different story. Thanks for the insight, as usual, Rob!
-Dave
July 13, 2009 at 2:10 pm
Seconded.
July 13, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Agreed! Bloody Pulp offers a lot more than noir with a ‘fresh twist’. It really stretches out and makes full use of the great tools of the comics medium. If it doesn’t win the competition, I’m sure these guys will have no trouble finding a publisher. I’m surprised this wasn’t declared an instant winner – why would Zuda risk letting this one go?
July 13, 2009 at 2:34 pm |
I just feel bad about not getting a chance to mention Jason Lutes fantastic BERLIN graphic novels in reference here. Readers of BLOODY PULP would really love those and I’m sure the creators here must be familiar with them.
July 13, 2009 at 2:55 pm |
Rob, I’m here following the link you dropped in the Bloody Pulp comment pit and, man… I just need to be clear. I’m NOT hear to thank you for what this post says about Bloody Pulp. I AM here to thank you for what your post says about comics.
We all, as creators, need to become better versed, more fluid, in what you so eloquently call “the language of stories”.
You’ve just converted me from casual lurker to loyal reader.
July 14, 2009 at 5:29 am
Jorge,
You have talent.
July 13, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
Rob has hit it on the head by mentioning that pitches half to give you a taste of what can be and not pour out the most giving parts of a submission.
Bloody Pulp can continue for as long as the writer and artist still have finger strength.
July 14, 2009 at 12:30 pm |
[...] ONE POSITION… it was pretty intense. I mean yesterday was already off to a great start, with an incredibly insightful and positive review posted over at MPD57 by guest blogger, wordsmith and inker on The Hammer, Rob [...]
July 14, 2009 at 7:25 pm |
I hate that people confuse comics, manga, and anime with genres. I had to explain this to someone not 3 days ago.
July 15, 2009 at 10:45 am
Someone called me a cocksucker for telling them GI Joe Resolution was not anime.
True story.
July 16, 2009 at 1:14 pm
The word ‘genre’ has a different meaning for marketing people. For some people, a genre is a ‘market’.
There are different ways to sell stuff – so like there’s ’sports people’ and ‘action movie people’ and ‘opera people’ and then ‘comics people’. People that are into comics can be sold a whole subset of ’specialty products’ like anime and manga because they are aware of these things and care to know more. Someone who’s ’sailing people’ is not likely to notice/care about the difference.
So yeah – while you or I may have a liking to a genre like ‘historical drama’ and then go out and enjoy movies, novels, comics, manga and anime that all fit that genre, the marketplace definition divides things differently, and sadly, marketplace language spills over into the common vernacular all too often.
(I hate HATE the word ‘property’ to describe a story)
July 16, 2009 at 7:31 pm |
Stories, like it or not, are the property we sell as creators, reviewers or merchants in the comic industry. The established value, what some people equate to the success, of a story in this industry is based not solely on its ability to transmit an idea to its viewers, but its ability to capture viewer attention in an expanded marketplace.
it could be argued (and has been argued) that Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster received very adequate compensation for SUPERMAN as a comicbook story when seen against the backdrop of industry rates at the time. What couldn’t have been anticipated by these two “boy geniuses” is the impact a comicbook story could have on a new and expanding youth market through toys, radio programs, television and, eventually, big-budget Hollywood films. Fortunately, the creative rights climate in America and in it’s comics industry has changed since then and every couple of fans with a pencil, some ink and idea are on the lookout for preparing for cross-over success. Not being able to understand how a work of your own hand can be used, or abused, in this market climate as a property would be backward and short-sighted.
But you’re right. If a story is not a work of personal art first, then you certainly would be better off looking for a career in game design these days. Comics is still, and will always remain, a drudgery business that requires the dedication, unwavering commitment and damn-near foolishness of “doing-it-for-art’s-sake” attitudes to generate the best and personal properties.
But there’s really a much more narrow margin of break-through success than people new on the scene seem to understand. Chris Ware’s amazingly cogent graphic novel JIMMY CORRIGAN took over a decade to make and is generally referred to as a benchmark of what can be done in the language of comics. it sells in bookstores and comicshops with equal strength and regularity years later, and there’s almost always talk of it being made into a movie. Still, its hardly a household word or pop culture idiom like HARRY POTTER. Must everyone who has any distant awareness of comics as an artform is distantly familiar with the idea behind MAUS, but I’m yet to see the Vladek and Artie action figures in a comicshop, let alone at Toys-R-Us.
In fact, there’s really not that many people making a stable let alone comfortable living out of comics and graphic novels these days. One might argue that this balloon of creator rights issue, as necessary and well-intended as the might have once been haven’t helped people keep their jobs in a collapsing market. Remember though, I’m from working class Detroit, and a little leery of people telling me how i should expect more than just a paycheck for doing a good job. It doesn’t always seem to work out that way.
Yeah, i think we should be aware of our work as a property and the rights we have if that property can be moved into a bigger market than what we’d do with it on our own. But what we’re making here is stories and their market forces at work in the world that can turn those stories into properties and those properties into the thing they’re really looking for, traffic and commodity, are in it to make a living just as we all are.
-Rob
July 17, 2009 at 1:04 pm |
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July 17, 2009 at 11:12 pm |
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October 11, 2009 at 10:16 pm |
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